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    Here's a weird one -- I tried an alt-PrtScn to capture just the Cirrus window, but it was as if there's an invisible dialog centered over the window and I only got a small area. (The capture was for my next post below -- for some reason the board's not letting me attach more than one pic.)

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    When doing a file copy of an entire tree, for some reason the files are moved in a different order than what's visible onscreen (in this case, alphabetically). I guess a screenshot wouldn't be useful here (I saved one just to remind me to post about it). I take it this isn't intentional, that it just doesn't yet have code implemented to handle that, right? I couldn't tell what order they were being copied in, but some files visible in the current window were copied and then others way offscreen were being copied. Kinda disconcerting.

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    I haven't been able to reproduce the Alt+PrtScn glitch you're seeing here. Is it repeatable for you? If so, what OS are you running, and if you move/resize the window does it change how the screenshot works?

    The tree should copy in the same sort order as the display, but it goes level by level instead of copying an entire directory and it's contents before moving to the next sibling. There are technical reasons for this related to the way the file operations are split up and scheduled. In certain cases we can work around the scheduling to produce a more expected order; when I have time I'll see about improving this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Is it repeatable for you? If so, what OS are you running, and if you move/resize the window does it change how the screenshot works?
    I still have to experiment some more -- I just wanted to be sure and check whether there's a known invisible centered window in Cirrus. It may well have been a different app; I'll keep checking. (OS is XP SP2, FWIW.)

    The tree should copy in the same sort order as the display, but it goes level by level instead of copying an entire directory and it's contents before moving to the next sibling.
    I don't understand what's considered a "level", but as long as it's a known issue I know you guys will get back to it when the more major stuff's done. Thank you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    I haven't been able to reproduce the Alt+PrtScn glitch you're seeing here. Is it repeatable for you? If so, what OS are you running, and if you move/resize the window does it change how the screenshot works?
    It seems to occur only during file or tree copies. OS is XP SP2 -- I'll work on setting up some test data so I can see how changing the window affects it.

    I moved two subdirs with their contents from one drive to another in 3.0.442 and then went to the parent dir to delete it since it was now empty. Cirrus showed it was deleted because it disappeared from the listview, but apparently Win Explorer had a partial lock on the dir because I had it displayed or "open." When I changed dirs in Explorer, the one I "deleted" was still there, so I deleted it directly through Explorer.

    I've noticed that paging down in BC2 with the folder compare window always goes "window contents -1" (leaving one common line in both views). Cirrus just goes "window contents," meaning you have no reference point to see that you've scrolled. If your mouse sends a doubleclick, for example, you'd be none the wiser, and it's just a bit easier to remain oriented when you have the one-line "underlap". (Does that make sense?)

    Finally, in the initial Cirrus dialog at load time, the layout of the Saved Sessions treeview ends up requiring that initially-visible filenames are cut off pretty short. Even though the treeview display will scroll horizontally, I'd like to suggest to remove the redundant word "compare" from the action buttons in this dialog. (I've highlighted 'em in the sample screenshot.) Same concept for the sync buttons, etc. That'll permit better use of the horizontal space for the initial overview of what's available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    I'd like to suggest to remove the redundant word "compare" from the action buttons in this dialog.
    I prefer that the word "Compare" is left in place. Cirrus' initial "default" window size needs to be smaller to accommodate users still running in lower resolutions (800x600). For those with this limitation, a single click on a line item will show the details (along with the full file names) in the session manager pane to the right of the saved sessions tree.

    If you have a newer system with a higher resolutions (I use 1600x1200) then Cirrus will remember your selected window size when you launch the application, and you will have plenty of space for the full filenames to display.

    Scooter: My suggestion would be as follows: When the user deselects the "Include session management" option in the "Home view" Interface options, why not display the session filenames in a docked pane at the bottom of the window (similar to the log pane at the bottom of a compare session) with an open and an edit icon to the left of the pane (similar to the icons to the left of a log pane). This would remove the filenames and "Open" button to the right of the "Saved sessions" tree and give the user all of the real estate for the "Saved sessions" tree itself...a nice compromise for those with lower screen resolutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bulgrien View Post
    I prefer that the word "Compare" is left in place.
    How come?

    If you have a newer system with a higher resolutions (I use 1600x1200) then Cirrus will remember your selected window size when you launch the application, and you will have plenty of space for the full filenames to display.
    Actually, I keep wanting to drag the vertical bar out a bit that separates the Saved Sessions treeview and the detailed fields to the right of it (but of course it's not movable). Seems like while it's nice to have the option of large fields for the comparison specs, etc., they default to being bigger than usually necessary.

    I'm running at the fairly common 1024x768 (it's monitor size keeping me to that rez) and while I can maximize the "home" dialog, I guess the real issue is that the treeview is displaying horizontal info in an area optimized for vertical info (and same for the specs fields that appear next to it). Another thought might be to place the tree over top of the specs so they both have room to grow horizontally for those deeply nested paths.

    why not display the session filenames in a docked pane at the bottom of the window
    Do you have an example of this? I can't picture it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    How come?
    Personal preference. It is more explicit. I think it is slightly more user friendly for new/novice users...a user knows exactly what type of session the button will launch instead of having to derive it from the groupbox heading...not that reading the groupbox heading is a difficult effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    Do you have an example of this? I can't picture it.
    Instead of this:


    Something like this:


    ...where a pencil icon will edit/manage the session, and an open book icon (or perhaps the scooter "wheel" icon) will open the session in a compare window.
    Last edited by Michael Bulgrien; 18-Dec-2007 at 01:14 PM.

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    Thanks, Michael. That might not help Tom since he has the "session management" tabs visible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    That might not help Tom since he has the "session management" tabs visible.
    Yes, I realize he does... but a change like this might just might make deselecting the "Include session management" option more useful/appealing to users that don't care about seeing the session management details when they are not actively configuring a session.

    I have the "Include session management" option checked. But I might just change it if this enhancement were implemented. Without it, there isn't enough to gain by making the change. With it, there are distinct advantages either way a user has it configured.

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