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  1. #1
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    Default Request for Folder Merge feedback

    As we work on our final polishing in preparation for an official release of Beyond Compare 4, the one new feature we haven't had a lot of feedback on is the Folder Merge.

    Is anyone out there using the BC4 beta Folder Merge for productive work?

    If so, please tell us about your experience.

    This forum thread or an email to support@scootersoftware.com are both great ways to provide us with feedback.
    Chris K Scooter Software

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    Default Slow Folder Merge

    I have not seriously used Folder Merge feature - the main reason being that I could not much understand it initially, and whenever I tried to experiment with this new feature and open an existing Folder Compare session as Folder Merge, the initial comparison would seem to take infinity (the "Terminates Comparison" icon on toolbar would keep on blinking).

    Today, I seem to have realized the cause of this problem - while in the "Factory Defaults" of Folder Compare and Folder Sync Comparison > Requires Opening Files > Compare Contents is UNCHECKED, in case of folder Merge this setting is CHECKED - that is why the initial comparison takes so much time and the user might lose interest in even experimenting with the feature.

    Please guide if there is any particular reason for keeping this Checkbox Filled in folder Merge.

    With Regards

    Sanjiv Bansal

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    Default Changed "Both Sides" to "All Sides" - What about ICON ?

    In a recent Beta (18509) you changed Up One Level feature from "Both Sides" to "All Sides" in Folder Merge - Have you considered Updating (a new) icon for "ALL Sides" so that user is better aware of what to expect.

    With Regards

    Sanjiv Bansal

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    Default Browsing to BCSS file as Ancestor

    I think using a BCSS file (BC Snapshot File) as an Ancestor location will be a wonderful usage pattern for Folder Merge (Please guide - Am I correct) - I could even drag and drop a BCSS file in the Ancestor Path and it worked fine.

    However, if you find it not a forbidden usage pattern and find this usage pattern to be useful - then you may want to explicitly provide feature to select a BCSS file as folder location - may be third option along with Browse File Systems... and Browse Using Profile...

    With Regards

    Sanjiv Bansal

    PS: I could use the BCSS file in Left, Right and Merge to Other fields also - but could not figure out, will these usage patterns serve any purpose. Please guide will there be any benefit of using BCSS file in these paths.
    Last edited by sumangalam; 01-Aug-2014 at 08:36 AM.

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    Hello,

    The content comparison is enabled by default since to perform a merge, the text content of the files should be evaluated. The timestamps alone are likely not enough, especially if they are not accurately provided by the VCS.
    Aaron P Scooter Software

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    Hello,

    We can consider that. The basic action is still 'Up a level', which is represented by the icon. The text hint was updated to be a more detailed, accurate description.
    Aaron P Scooter Software

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    Hello,

    Using a snapshot is not encouraged (see previous reply about merging the text content) but isn't discouraged either. You could load a snapshot as the Ancestor, though I would recommend generating a snapshot with CRC values, which would allow a CRC content comparison to run.

    Does this meet your needs? Where does it fall short? How would you like to use it in a workflow?
    Aaron P Scooter Software

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    I have tried a few times to use this feature but find the labelling and interface very confusing.

    If you scan your eye across the path row you see text hints:

    [Enter path here]…. [Enter ancestor here]…..[Enter path here]

    then you see on next row,

    MERGE TO: ()Left ()Right ()Other: Enter path here

    If I focus on this part of the interface for feedback, here's where I get stuck:

    1. You seem to be able to choose three folder paths… a left path, right path and middle path folder - Yes?
    This therefore suggests you can merge the contents of 3 folders, into a fourth folder path if you combine these three path selections with the MERGE TO: ()Other path option. - YES???

    2. But, the middle path seems to have a different role as it has a special hint text that differs from the left and right folder path definition. It says "Ancestor"…. huh??? what does that mean?

    3. If the middle path is meant to show the contents of the merge itself then the lack of "MIDDLE" in the MERGE TO: () left ()right ()other line section makes sense. If the middle path isn't special then why show a hint that differs from the others.

    Why don't you show hint 'first source folder', 'second source path/folder', 'optional third path/folder'

    4. Now, if I add in the confusion conveyed by only the leftmost column showing icon symbols next to the file rows themselves … why aren't similar icons also appearing at the left of files in my rightmost column?

    I would have expected these file-action icons would be showing me what was going to happen during the merge with each file in each folder path… confusing


    On a suggestion note it would be better if the interface looked a bit more like a funnel… why not show a visual watermark arrow underneath each folder column to depict the funnel flow? That way you can see which is the source and which is destination...

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    Default Folder Merge Screen Layout

    Hello,

    You may want to consider the layout of the Folder Merge Sessions as per the image attached. I think it might have been easier for me to understand the thing a bit better (though not completely as yet) if it was organized this way. The changes I have done in the image are:

    1. The "Ancestor Pane" ToolBar Icon has been repositioned from the ToolBar to the Address Bar. (It might be preferable that facility to customize "Centre Pane" in Options > ToolBars, etc. is removed altogether, it should always remain there in the View Menu and Address Bar as Icon)

    2. you may consider to use the term "Ancestor Pane" EVERYWHERE in the application; and "Centre Pane"/"Centre Folder" is replaced appropriately - that will help in better understanding the feature.

    3. Previously there were Two instances of "Up one level on all sides", now there is just ONE instance and it is positioned at the extreme left - Just above the icons that give information about all sides.

    4. The placeholders on address bar for addresses of various sides/panes have resized and repositioned so that they perfectly align with their respective panes below.

    5. Now you take decision appropriately - if you want to let the address bar of "Ancestor Pane" remain visible when the user toggles the "Ancestor Pane" Button on the address bar - the Button should always remain visible in appropriately toggled state - but you may want to hide the address bar of Ancestor Pane also along with the pane when the user wants so.

    With Regards

    Sanjiv Bansal

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    Default Even Better - Folder Merge Screen Layout

    Hello,

    Continuing with my previous feedback, you may want to consider polishing the "Merge to: Left/Right/Other" also as shown in the image below.

    With Regards

    Sanjiv Bansal

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