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  • klm
    started a topic 64-bit version for Mac?

    64-bit version for Mac?

    Apple seems to be getting more serious about 64-bit apps on macOS (see 64-bit Requirement for Mac Apps) -- and we've seen with iOS 11 that they're serious about stopping support for 32-bit apps.

    Any plans for Beyond Compare on the Mac to be compiled 64-bits?

  • derbbre
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    Originally posted by cstern View Post
    As a new version is approaching, I'd like to advocate a small feature that would be very nice. When using a NAS, the network drives are mounted to /Volumes and can usually be seen as an icon on the desktop. As an example I have a NAS where I have a drive I mount as "xutils". When I use BC for mac the drive is not readily visible, but I have to navigate to /Volumes and then set basefolder to /Volumes/xutils. From there all is fine.

    I would like the NAS drives to show up in the "Browse for folder" dialog box, just as mounted disk (install) images are. As mentioned it IS possible to navigate to the mounted drive but having it in the dialog box would be much more convenient.
    Another option (it's another step, but you should only need to do it once) is to move the mounted NAS volume to your "Favorites" in the Finder. Once it is there, you will see it in the BC4 Browse dialog as well (as long as it is currently mounted):

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  • Aaron
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    Thanks cstern. The beta has a rigid schedule and we will need to focus on stability and bug fixes to get a full 4.3 64bit macOS release out as soon as possible. I'll add your feature request notes to our Customer Wishlist, but it is unlikely to make it into an initial 4.3 release.

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  • ZoŽ
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    Originally posted by cstern View Post
    is there a dedicated forum for beta users? If so, I'd love to be added. Thanks - has been waiting for this for a while.
    We don't have a dedicated beta forum right now. Feel free to start new threads in the existing Mac forum for any issues you find.

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  • cstern
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    As a new version is approaching, I'd like to advocate a small feature that would be very nice. When using a NAS, the network drives are mounted to /Volumes and can usually be seen as an icon on the desktop. As an example I have a NAS where I have a drive I mount as "xutils". When I use BC for mac the drive is not readily visible, but I have to navigate to /Volumes and then set basefolder to /Volumes/xutils. From there all is fine.

    I would like the NAS drives to show up in the "Browse for folder" dialog box, just as mounted disk (install) images are. As mentioned it IS possible to navigate to the mounted drive but having it in the dialog box would be much more convenient.

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  • cstern
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    is there a dedicated forum for beta users? If so, I'd love to be added. Thanks - has been waiting for this for a while.

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  • carburettor
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    Great News!! You made my day! Thanks!!!

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  • Aaron
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    Hello,

    We have a technical test available for those that want to try out the new 64-bit MacOS build. This build is mandatory for the MacOS 10.15 Catalina beta.
    http://www.scootersoftware.com/download.php?zz=beta43

    This has been a significant rewrite and there are many bugs we are still working on. If you are interesting in helping us track these down and squash them, we would appreciate the help testing. You can review a Known Issues list here:
    http://www.scootersoftware.com/cocoa_status.php

    Emailing support@scootersoftware.com with your BCSupport.zip (Beyond Compare menu -> Support; Export), including a saved BCCrashReport.txt, any helpful sample files, and steps that lead to the crash, will greatly help us track down new issues as they crop up.

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  • ZoŽ
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    Originally posted by ericfxd0 View Post
    Does this support the system-wide dark mode feature?
    Not yet. Upgrading to Cocoa got us a lot of the way there, but we have to redo a bunch of graphics and custom drawing to make it usable. Dark mode is on our radar though.

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  • ericfxd0
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    Originally posted by ZoŽ View Post
    Official statement on our macOS 64-bit release:

    https://www.scootersoftware.com/vbul...ta-coming-soon
    Does this support the system-wide dark mode feature? I imagine this would be the easiest way to offer that functionality unless BC's interface is too complex for it to work out of the box.

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  • macandrice
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    Originally posted by cacruden View Post

    That statement made me pause... I think I will now wait for the official release. I was trying to figure out whether to buy this product -- or Kaleidascope (which from the release notes -- I get the feeling it may not have active development as much)... so now I think I will just wait a bit.
    ZoŽ's statement was both honest and ill-advised, but nevertheless BC is your best option on the Mac.

    Kaleidascope is beautiful to look at but horrible to use, is missing a ton of functionality compared to BC, and as you noted, hasn't really been actively developed in years. And it's way overpriced.

    DeltaWalker is neither beautiful to look at nor use, is also missing a ton of functionality comparatively, and you can only copy one set of data between the source/destination at the same time. (I regularly have four or five going at once in a session on BC.) It also doesn't have any ongoing development; I got it in 2015 as part of a bundle, and I don't think it's changed at all since then. (About shows copyright of 2004-2016, e.g.)

    BC is ugly as sin (it looks like a Windows app), but it's fast, it has a boatload of functionality, and it's mostly well-supported (64-bit OSX notwithstanding).

    Wait for the official release or not, your choice, but BC is the best at what it does, even (especially?) on a Mac.

    (Not affiliated, etc., etc. In fact, I've given them my share of grief over the years, but it's because I use it so much. )
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  • Aaron
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    Originally posted by cacruden View Post

    That statement made me pause... I think I will now wait for the official release. I was trying to figure out whether to buy this product -- or Kaleidascope (which from the release notes -- I get the feeling it may not have active development as much)... so now I think I will just wait a bit.
    You (probably) won't have to wait long. We can finally announce BC 4.3's upcoming technical test for 64bit and macOS 10.15 support:
    https://www.scootersoftware.com/vbul...ta-coming-soon

    Before any purchase is necessary, please try the fully featured trial. Just be aware that this first release is an early release, and we would appreciate any feedback for issues found during testing on various hardware and MacOS version combinations.

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  • cacruden
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    Originally posted by ZoŽ View Post
    You're right, we did fail to appreciate the difference between Apple's and Microsoft's development environments. Frankly, if we had known how much effort is required just to stay still, I'm not sure we would have launched a macOS version. The Windows version is a much larger market for us, and the only reason we've been able to keep maintaining the macOS version in the face of this is that Microsoft isn't breaking BC with every new release.
    That statement made me pause... I think I will now wait for the official release. I was trying to figure out whether to buy this product -- or Kaleidascope (which from the release notes -- I get the feeling it may not have active development as much)... so now I think I will just wait a bit.

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  • ZoŽ
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    Official statement on our macOS 64-bit release:

    https://www.scootersoftware.com/vbul...ta-coming-soon

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  • ZoŽ
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    Originally posted by intersol View Post
    I am very concerned about the lack of progress on 64-bit support on BeyonCompare and it seems that at least this may be the end of more than 10 years love relationship.
    Don't take the lack of a public release as evidence of a lack of progress. BC 4 had a very long public alpha/beta because it was a new platform and it required a lot of design and feedback to make sure it integrated well. This release, while a significant effort for us, just needs to match the existing version. We can see where it's working and what needs improvement fairly easily.

    Originally posted by intersol View Post
    My impression is that they fail to understand how support and upgrades work on Apple systems.As a software developer you *must* always run/test with MacOS prereleases, read and *act* on Apple statements (like API deprecatios).
    You're right, we did fail to appreciate the difference between Apple's and Microsoft's development environments. Frankly, if we had known how much effort is required just to stay still, I'm not sure we would have launched a macOS version. The Windows version is a much larger market for us, and the only reason we've been able to keep maintaining the macOS version in the face of this is that Microsoft isn't breaking BC with every new release.

    Originally posted by intersol View Post
    The public beta of 64-bit BC should have being released 2+ years ago. Now we do not even have a date about when it will be available.
    We're just as disappointed at the schedule as you are, and it's not for lack of effort that it's taken this long.

    All of the viewers are functional and it is stable enough for our inhouse use. It's still going to be a while before we consider it done to our usual standards, and I don't know whether we'll reach that point before September, but we're close to "good enough" for the people who need it right away. We are aware that our customer base is going to skew towards early adopters on this, and we are taking that into consideration on our release planning. We can't test the 10.15 beta any earlier than you can though, so even if it's usable on 10.14, it might take us some time to work out any new kinks that pop up.

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